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After twelve hours sweating in a 50 year-old Soviet train, Lesya and I were treated to a view of the signature landmarks of Donetsk: huge mounds of industrial refuse. No golden hills, no majestic purple mountains, no white cliffs, no windswept peaks -- slag, big heaps of slag. Slag was even the symbol on our Kyiv-Donetsk train.

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Slag
Donetsk was born and raised on mining and metallurgy so I suppose having the leftover ore lying around may bring a sense of comfort. The Welsh investor John Hughes created the city in the late 1800's and named it after himself - Yuzivka. A few decades later Russians forcibly welcomed the eastern part of Ukraine into their USSR club and decided Yuzivka was a capitalist-parasite name. Picking a new name randomly out of a hat, they came up with Stalino. Well, it turns out the new name happened to resemble that of a mass-murdering despot, so they finally settled on Donetsk.

I can't help but wonder if Don Trump had anything to do with this.

The slag itself is fascinating. The average mound rises about 50 feet into the air, and since Donetsk is in the steppe (a misnomer, if you ask me, since this means the area is Kansas-flat), the mounds tower over everything. The slag itself very rocky and powdery with rust; it resembles light brown chalk -- you could even write with it if you wanted.

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Founder Hughes (from Wikipedia)
The friend of mine in Donetsk that we were visiting would occasionally go for summer picnics on the slagheaps with fellow Americans. More near than on, actual since their brittle texture makes them a poor foundation for sitting on.

The most noticeable feature of Donetsk after the slag is the Soviet urban-suburban all-terrain apartment complexes. What image can express the bludgeoning ugliness of these buildings to those whose eyes have not been offended by them?

1) Stacks of cement shipping pallets

2) Beehives of the Undead

3) Gingerbread houses built by morbid and unimaginative children

To be fair, these buildings have not been exclusively visited upon Donetsk. Every city in Ukraine is circled by the square gray slabs of concrete, and every small town center is dominated by them. I once (on a dare) visited a town of 7,000 people in central Ukraine with no stoplight, one "good" restaurant recklessly infringing on the copyright of "Chip and Dale's Rescue Rangers," and a number of 2 and 3 story apartment buildings. That being said, it doesn't help that Donetsk is flat and trees there are scarce.

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Steely Defenders of Stalino
For historical significance in the city you have Soviet monuments. After extensive cross-comparison I have come to the conclusion that the figures in these monuments are best understood as the exact opposite of the characters in Winnie the Pooh. Instead of warm, fuzzy creatures filled with meekness and love they are flinty soldiers and workers that have rejected flexibility as being for pansy bourgeoisie. I'm ashamed to say it, but stiff as they are, they do have a kind of stormtrooper coolness to them.

I visited the biggest and bleakest of the statues on a day that was much too bright and cheerful. The huge black worker and soldier, idealized beyond all traces of humanity, stood against a happy blue sky and fluffy white clouds. They were meant to commemorate the heroic defense of Stalino against the Nazis. It must have been a tough decision for the inhabitants -- Who should they defend against? I was happy when a grandmother and her grandkids distracted me from the lifeless statues.

Most of these statues, especially in the west, were torn down. The remaining statues are usually the subject of agonized debate. One big Kyiv magazines includes a question about whether or not to tear down a central Kyiv statue of Lenin in its weekly interviews with the famous and powerful of Ukraine. "No, for the sake of cultural heritage," is the answer I usually see.

There isn't much debate about the statues in Donetsk. It was in Donetsk that the Communist Party, after being banned during independence, rose up again two years later like ashes from a phoenix.

Donetsk is so Communist even the air here is red. There's a joke in Ukraine that a couple guys from Donetsk visit the Carpathian Mountains in the west and when they arrive one of them collapses. People stop to help and they get the doctors and nobody can revive the man. Then his friend slaps his forehead. He picks up the unconscious man and sets him down behind their car with his nose in the exhaust pipe. Then he turns on the car and the man wakes up with a start, gasping heavily.

Donetsk has always been a tough place, and I can't say I'm likely to go vacationing there again. But I do remember one uplifting sight. Amidst all the leftover Soviet architecture was a statue and a poster of Sergey Bubka, a multiple-gold-medal-winning Olympic pole-vaulter. As a product of the rigorous Soviet athletics program, Bubka was one of the great success stories of the period, but he didn't disappear after 1991. The poster was of the new Bubka -- the successful, well-dressed capitalist advertising mobile phones.

[A couple additional pictures can be found in our Donetsk travel pics

Posted on Tuesday, May 3, 2005 at 09:41AM by Registered CommenterDan McMinn | Comments12 Comments

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You know, guys, I don't like Donetsk myself :) I left that region and am now living in Kiev - but for one overwhelming reason: no jobs available - more exactly, scarce and underpaid jobs. But - without this - I would have stayed there, you know. Really, I would.
You know guys, your vision is a bit one-sided, a bit too European :) this city is recovering - steadily - from Soviet scrap, and the folks there live their lives in a slightly different way than you - and when you tell me it's bad, I'll tell - listen to the end :)
People live tough lives there, indeed - but it's little different from any Ukrainian region beyond the capital. That is why there are still very many people in Ukraine who read books and study things. This is their way to pass the time, and as for drinking a lot - it really has a bit longer history than the Soviet Union.
So - hold your irony a bit, for people still manage to remain people there, to preserve their dignity and to be useful for others, and you will not be able to do anything like living there, no?
Please reply - if you want to - to my email, for I don't think I'll be rummaging very much through English-spoken sites, I'm a Ukrainian, and - rightly or not - proud to be one.
Alex.
December 9, 2004 | Unregistered CommenterAlex
I agree with Alex it is a bit easy to type any city in Ukraine, except for Kiev, as a typical Soviet style place, but it is more interesting also too look for pre-Soviet or after-Indipendence architecture and culture. Let's be fair, cities in the US are not places of remarkable monuments like Paris so a bit of modesty should suit you in this regard!
I can admire people in Ukraine the way they are recovering their culture and preserving their dignity in difficult times.
BTW Alex, the writer of the article is from the US not from Europe!
February 27, 2005 | Unregistered CommenterChris
It`s not truth! The name of yor site describes your opinion! You think you live in democracy? ;))))))

There are many nice clubs in Donetsk, but you did not find them.........may be you did not want.......

You are wrong about NRs........there are no such a people in Donetsk. You can not be NR here! You have to think when you work here!

About the transparent economy you a right about mud - no! I`ve talked to people in Kyiv and Lviv ......... there is a mud! Theu calles Bandera the herro! Can you imaging this? The man who killed Ukrainian people, the man who were fighting the democracy there hero!

I was traveling to Karpati for chrostmas, and there in the place called Slavskoe happened something. Dirty men, the driver of "bobik", we were paying him 10 hrivnas to travel 1 km only because we are from east Ukraine, when the people from Lviv and Kiev payed only 5! So hi was dirty (like a mud economy in Kiev;)) the smell from him was like from a glass of "vodka" and he asked us - " How can you live there in Easten Ukraine? What do you eat and how do you gain money for living?" it was a question from the man who recives the money from us. I thin they are crazy there abiut it. They are disinformed and angry with Donbass! But they are wrong! They are the victims of politicans! sorry for this.............
April 19, 2005 | Unregistered CommenterMe
Hi All. Well, you're right in that I was hard on Donetsk. And right about a bunch of other things:
Alex:
1) Donetsk is recovering from the Soviet era
2) Ukrainians are remarkably well-read
3) People are still people in Donetsk
4) I wouldn't want to live there

Chris:
5) All Ukrainian cities suffer from the legacy of the Soviet Union. Please notice that I (albeit grudgingly) mentioned this.
6) America has its tough cities, too.

Me:
1) There are nice clubs in Donetsk. The point was not that Donetsk has no good clubs, just that it also has its Milleniums.
2) There is corruption all over the country.

Tell you what, I've seen Milleniums everywhere, so I'll move the discussion over to another travel entry. Then I will not be associating quite so many bad things with the city. I can talk about Okean Elzi, who we saw there. I saw him in concert in Donetsk, which was fun, but could also have happened anywhere. Further, I am under the impression that he's not very popular out there anymore because of the Orange Revolution. Am I wrong?

Before ending, I just want to say for the record:
1) I've never gotten any more ripped off in the West than anywhere else in the country. That depends more on the individual than the place. And I thoroughly enjoyed our trip in the Carpathians (described in another entry)
2) L'viv feels like a poor Western European city to me. It is poor, by WE standards, but has the same feel. My wife and I enjoyed ourselves very much. The sense of nationalism in the West made it much more pleasant for me, because it help give people there a greater sense of pride.
3) You have got to be kidding me about there being no NRs in Donetsk. You have the biggest oligarch in the country there. And he's not the only one. Perhaps you think there is no middle ground between oligarchs and other folks in Donetsk?
4) The Donbass region is much more poorly served by the media than other areas. The bias in the media out there during the campaign was the worst of a bad lot, and it's still quite bad. Furthermore, the *only* instigators of violence during the Orange Rev that I have heard about were pro-Yanu people, primarily from the Donbass area. Just look what happened to Yushchenko's friendship caravan, or even more those 1+1 or Inter journalists (can't remember which) who went to report on political feelings in the West and East and were hospitalized after being attacked in Donbass. This indicates to me that the most disinformed and angry people in Ukraine since at least October of last year have been in Donbass.
April 20, 2005 | Registered CommenterDan McMinn
Hi,

I'm french

I'm very happy to read about Donetsk because I have been sent by the OSCE in this town during the second run-round of the presidential elections in last december. I'm very happy urkrainian people have been able to liberate from communism. I hope Urkainia 'll integrate European Union in the shortest time. We xwill welcome you very warmly.

Sincerely

Thierry
From Paris
June 2, 2005 | Unregistered Commenterthierry
well me - you are still in communist propaganda - Bandera IS a hero, a real Ukrainian - and within 10 years I think history will be written in WHOLE Ukraine - and BTW I am shure that Vladimir Illich Ulianov
aka Lenin killed much more Ukrainians and also women and children well not in combat, but with his pen, writing various ukases - and monument for this murderer are all over eastern Ukraine and sad enough also in the capital...
January 11, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterJosephVienna
Having grown up in an industrial Steel town myself here in England, I found Donetsk a wonderful place with very warm and friendly people! lets face it, as in people beauty is only skin deep! I would happily trade my western trappings for the warmth and friendliness of Ukranian people. The only place (hand on heart) of all my travels that I have felt truly at home!! Thank you all Ukranians and god bless.
January 19, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterAndy
My wife and I adopted 4 kids from 2 orphanges in Kramatorsk. The region was not much different from small towns in New Mexico. We met many wonderful people in Donetsk and Kramatorsk and we will take the children back to visit when they get older. We look forward to a US v. Ukraine world cup final!!!
Andy: I agree that Ukraine has some wonderful people, and that goes for everywhere. The topic comes up in the Crimea piece.

Joseph: Uhh... couldn't figure that paragraph out, but you're long gone by now. Oops.

Joe: Hope all is well.
February 15, 2006 | Registered CommenterDan McMinn
Hi, it was interesting reading your posting and the other comments. Right now I am trying to figure out where to go for a 3 week holiday, whether to Donetsk or a city in the west of Ukraine called Kamjenets- Podolsky (I am having a hard time remebering the name of it, I am afriad I'll get on a train and end up in Petropavlosk Kamchatsky or somewhere!)
January 4, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterMartin O'Regan Pevchikh
Hi, it was interesting reading your posting and the other comments. Right now I am trying to figure out where to go for a 3 week holiday, whether to Donetsk or a city in the west of Ukraine called Kamjenets- Podolsky (I am having a hard time remebering the name of it, I am afriad I'll get on a train and end up in Petropavlosk Kamchatsky or somewhere!)
January 4, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterMartin O'Regan Pevchikh
Check out a new city guide web-site citylife.donetsk.ua All the information concerning getting around Donetsk.
July 28, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterDonetsker

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