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Kamyanets-Podilsky and Khmelnytsky - A Couple Stories From the Family

We've been in Kamyanets-Podilsky (the city has an amazing 11th century castle) and the trading city of Khmelnytsky visiting with Lesya's family and celebrating Christmas.

One anecdote I picked up about the Orange Revolution along the way:

In Kamyanets-Podilsky we met with the Ukrainian Orthodox priest that oversaw our wedding. He talked about the 22nd of November.

He said: "So there was that election [on the 21st of November], and it was obviously fraudulent. Clearly it had been falsified. So that day a number of local opposition deputies came to my door, they were all in a flurry but didn't know what to do, you understand."

"They wanted to talk to me because I'd taken part in the activism even before independence in the late 1980's. I invited them in, we all started talking right there in the kitchen. 'What shoud we do?' they asked me. "

"'Well,' I said, standing there in front of them in a tracksuit with a knife in my hands, 'first I'm going to finish chopping this cabbage, then we'll go take this up with the mayor."

"We went by the mayor, and even though he's corrupt as they get, we talked with him, people started shouting outside the central government building, and the next day he joined L'viv in stating that Yushchenko had won the second round."

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Later we went and spent the evening with the family in Khmelnitsky, all but one of whom (that means 14 of 15 people including all aunts and cousins and grandpa) voted for Yushchenko. The last one has gotten into lots of arguments with the family, not generally of the angry sort, about his views. The rest of folks believe that he is against Yushchenko because his superior at work is also against him, and Uncle Vanya is just too close to his work boss. He usually points out that Yushchenko is not a saint, he's not perfect either, so this whole movement is wrong in that it is exaggerating his goodness.

I find that people pointing out that Yushchenko isn't perfect often comes up in discussions with those who voted for Yanukovych. Again, here was a case in which the ostensible Yanukovych supporter was, in actuality, an anti-Yushchenko man. I attribute this to Yanukovych's clearly illiberal character - one must spend all of one's attention on the weaknesses of Yushchenko in order to avoid comparing the two candidates, in which case Yushchenko would be, comparatively, the obvious choice.

The funniest moment is trying to imagine the incredibly frustrating conversations he's had with grandpa. Grandpa is 88 years old already and still full of energy. His wife just recently died, and she was was a wonderful teacher and mother and everything that the whole family always adored. Grandpa and her used to disagree about Yushchenko, with Grandpa being against and her for. (They each watched different television stations, the family explained, Grandpa the more pro-government station and Grandma the less pro-government one.)

Well, something in these events finally won him over and now he's a huge proponent of Yushchenko. He's also a man that will take any opportunity to start into a speech.

Must have been tough for uncle Vanya.

Just a slice of life for all of you.

Posted on Saturday, January 8, 2005 at 06:10AM by Registered CommenterDan McMinn | Comments5 Comments

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Hi there!

I have been reading your website for the past two months now, along with several of your other Kievite colleagues, and have become completely intrigued with what is going on in Ukraine. Therefore, I have recently created a blog that will *attempt* to cover democratic revolutions around the world.

I'm linking to you regardless, but it would be mega cool if you could link back to me.

It feels somewhat tacky asking this in the comments section, but I couldn't find your email :)

-Robert Mayer
www.publiuspundit.com
January 9, 2005 | Unregistered CommenterRobert Mayer
Do you actually have an Uncle Vanya?
January 9, 2005 | Unregistered CommenterMarissa
Hi!

I'm writing from Princeton University just wondering if I might be able to ask you a few questions tomorrow (Mon., January 10) for an article I'm writing with respect to how this election has empowered Ukrainian democracy and what it might imply for democracy in Europe and the world. In light of how connected you've been throughout the process I think it'd be great to have some quotes from you. Could you please write me right away, seeing as the article goes out tomorrow afternoon?

Thanks a million--
January 9, 2005 | Unregistered CommenterPam
Ukrainians must be careful not to put Yushchenko on a pedestal. Believe in him yes, but not think of him as some sort of saviour. He's only human. I'm afraid many Ukrainians are looking to him to save them but it's the people themselves who must work very hard at turning Ukraina around for the better. I pray that Yushchenko and the common people will have the strength.
January 9, 2005 | Unregistered CommenterRoma Boiko
I trust that most people who voted for Yushchenko know that no one gets to his position of power by being a saint. Success in politics means forming coalitions, and when there are a lot of snakes among the potential partners, a coalition is going to end up with a few. My gut says he could be a great President. Crises like the last few months are often transformative of those who go through them.

Even if Yushchenko walked on water, people like 'Uncle Vanya' would tell you it's because he didn't know how to swim.
January 10, 2005 | Unregistered CommenterDave Sheridan

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