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The Order in Tent City

On Friday, after waiting a few hours, my wife and I got to visit with one of the organizers of Tent City.

Walking through the mass of people and tents to the big forest green headquarters tent reminded me a little of military movies, especially walking by the four fellows hanging around the entrance before ducking through the final tunnel of fabric. But if this was a military movie, it was one of the zany comedy ones. The bustling of people was too chaotic for true military order.

Inside the tent was one small card table surrounded by people. The rest of the tent was occupied by a huge mounds of clothing, electric teakettles, boxes of medicine, and jars of this and that. Throughout the time we were there, volunteers were constantly walking in and asking for equipment or clothing, then slogging into the mountain of stuff or going off to look elsewhere.

"Here is the director," we were told, and pointed to a man sitting at the table.

"E...se .e," he tried to apologize. After that he gestured towards another fellow standing by, who came up and introduced himself in an only slightly less tortured voice. All of the men in the tent either spoke in horse whispers or not at all, and every five minutes one of them would pour or squirt medicine down his throat.

His name was Andrei. He was wearing fatigues, with two orange scarfs wrapped tightly around his throat to try and keep it a little warmer. He had a little nametag that said "Narodna Varta" on it - People's Watch. It was not an official title, the Tent City organizers had creating the nametags for the ad-hoc collection of people with management experience who are trying to run the camp. Officially Andrei worked in the Ukrainian equivalent of the Department of Homeland Security in Luhansk. He said his whole family for three generations had been protesting against the government, since his grandfather fought against the Communists in WWII (as well as against the facists).

My wife and I wondered if, coming from Luhansk, he had horror stories from the election. After all, Luhansk and Donetsk form the center of Yanukovych's power, and the place where there was an obviously fraudulent 88% voter turnout, with 95% support for him as the administration candidate. Andrei said no, there was no actual intimidation, though they were astonished he was actually wearing Yushchenko colors to the polls.

However, in his grandmother's little town, one of those in which everybody knows one another, there were large numbers of people turned away because they were told they'd taken out absentee ballots, which was news to them. At his own polling station, he had witnessed a man standing around the ballots during the count who had leaned over and dumped out forty more from inside his coat when few people were watching. At another station he knew about, the whole polling commission had gotten up and gone to a government-prepared feast at the closing of the polls, leaving the ballots untended.

Andrei's voice would often fail as he said this, and he would try to drip medicine in his throat from a broken squirter every few minutes. He also mixed apologies into the conversation every couple of minutes.

"I'm sorry for the way my mind is wandering," he said, "I've just had no time to sleep. I had two hours yesterday morning, but that's been about it since Saturday. I've been talking to journalists and people at the rallies, and new people with tents since then."

"Do you need anything?" we asked, hoping we could add something critical to the hills of stuff behind him.

"Nothing, really. People have given us everything we could ask for. It's been overwhelming. I mean, look at this," he reached into a random bag and pulled out brand name Fila ski pants. "This isn't knock-off, it's expensive," he put it back. "We try to give all the extra stuff to orphanages, but it just keeps coming."

"The other day, a little old grandma came up to me and made me cry. She didn't have a thermos, sho she was shuffling along with a 3 liter pot of tea, wrapped in aluminum foil, and black bread with butter on it. I'm used to thinking of Ukrainians as usually just getting by giving the minimum required, these people are giving everything they can. A little grandma."

"How long can you hold out here?" we asked, thinking that it took Georgia 2 1/2 weeks before the people overturned a fraudulent election result with their mass protests.

"Well, we've got heaters and tents enough. And you've got to think, 'the Eskimos off in Siberia live out their whole lives in worse cold than this'. What we really need now is not stuff, it's discipline. Maybe 70% of the folks here are just kids with their friends, celebrating their birthdays, or just having fun. If the government ever starts to really follow up on their intimidation tactics, they'll scatter, or their moms will come drag them home by their ears. They've got lots of energy but they're not a real revolutionary camp. 

"The last 30% is solid, but we're really tired and we need to get better organized," he finished.

Shortly after that we thanked him profusely and headed for the door, a little embarrassed at how much we'd made him talk.

"You couldn't use any food could you?" he asked hopefully, eyeing an enormous garbage bag stuffed with loaves of bread. Before we managed to escape out the door, Andrei pulled one of the scarves from his neck and thrust it into my hands.

Posted on Saturday, November 27, 2004 at 10:50PM by Registered CommenterDan McMinn | Comments12 Comments

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Is it a good idea to report that 70% of the protesters will scatter at the first sign of trouble - on the say-so of one man? Be sensitive to the effects of your words.
November 28, 2004 | Unregistered CommenterMK
Yes, I did think about whether or not to keep that number for quite some time. But after a while I left it in there for a few reasons that seemed very important. 1) It is the estimate of one person very concerned with management, I think people realize that. He was trying to explain the situation. 2) I can spend a lot of word is my journal trying to get across the spontaneousness and heartfulness of this movement and fail, because people still believe this is somehow orchestrated from above by the US. It's just not so. I really do believe that convincing people that this is truly Ukrainian is a bigger problem than trying to cover up any potential weaknesses in the opposition camp, especially among a computer-literate English-speaking audience. 3) Even if he is right and lot of people are not "committed to the cause," there are still thousands left. The kind of action that would actually scare anyone would be more politically damaging to the people in power than it is worth. There's over a million people out there piling on the food and clothing and electric teapots - this is not an admission of critical weakness. 4) In my next article (I moved it up so people will be more likely to read it first now), I show the other side of the coin - volunteers who were literally shrugging off cold, sleep, and everything else, and willing to stay in until the very end. They had plenty of resolve. The two articles are meant to act as compliments.

Anyway, I hope that my reasoning strikes you as... well... reasonable. Thanks for the comment, you keep me on my toes.
November 28, 2004 | Registered CommenterDan McMinn
Hi Dan,
My wife is from Ukraine and her family still lives there. They are scattered (L'vov to Kharkov) and we are naturally concerned. We have heard rumors that Yanukovich has stated that he will kill all the Christians or resume persecution of them once he takes office. Have you heard anything of this? Have you seen hide or hair of the Russian military that is supposedly in Kiev?

Wish I was there rather than writing from Cary, NC,
David Braaten
November 29, 2004 | Unregistered CommenterDavid Braaten
Hi David! I would be very unlikely to believe those comments for a couple reasons. 1) Yanukovych made "the Russian Orthodox Church likes me" the centerpiece of his campaign at the end. Most of us think it was a cynical way of trying to get votes, but he is unlikely to declare himself against Christianity in general, when at least one church is so close (in bed with) the Russians who helped him so much in his campaign. 2) All the other churches in Ukraine are against him (see a posting on www.postmodernclog.com for the list) and if he got that extreme, he would be opposed by quite a number of different believers who are otherwise divided 3) He just doesn't have the power to do that kind of thing. Truly. 4) The most likely way he will persecute the churches are as follows: a) if he holds the presidency, he will make life difficult for all non-Russian Orthodox, like having them kicked out of buildings, declaring that they are foreign political groups, etc... b) if he does not keep power, he may attempt to get in on the efforts of some eastern Ukrainian cities to secede, thus tearing apart the country and hurting everyone here, Christian or otherwise.

But don't worry about outright killing. I would put my money down that that's just a scare story.
November 29, 2004 | Registered CommenterDan McMinn
Hi suquarespace friend...nice blog...¡

Ill've watching the post for the Iberoamerican people, i hope don`t angry you....¿?
November 30, 2004 | Unregistered Commenterlightme
Dear Dan - I applaud you in your reporting. Let your conscience be your guide. Some people have expressed concern that a policy of attrition will be used to try to defeat the protesters. The cold must be brutal as well as the lack of sleep. Keep the reports coming, Dan.
November 30, 2004 | Unregistered CommenterJane
Dear Dan,
I'm disgusted with people, who like you spread the lies about the situation in Ukraine... [[Message from Dan: My first angry person! Please connect to his comment which I've reproduced at http://orangeukraine.squarespace.com/nastiness/2004/12/3/peter-pan-is-disgusted-by-liars-like-me.htmland linked to my response.]]
November 30, 2004 | Unregistered CommenterPeter Pan
Dear Peter Pan!
I don't know, where is your eyes.
I can say more - i see from your post, that you haven't been on Maidan.
I live in Tent City from November, 23.
But in important reasons( i have big troubles in Univercity) i usually come to the Tent City every night.
So, the number you have pronounced - 8000-10000 is absolutely real.... but if you talk about nights on Maidan, and if you don't count revolutioners from Tent City, peolpe from blocking posts under Verhovna Rada, Administration of Presedent and so on.

Big regards,
Yoko
December 2, 2004 | Unregistered CommenterYoko
You know guys, I will agree with the saying thet there's a lot of OCCASIONAL BY-PASSERS there, an awful lot. Will not argue about the percentage, but it's become kind of "tusovka" - I will not say they do not support Yushchenko, no. I know myself a lot of people who helped the Maidan in any available means, collected money, bought stuff, etc. But - all the unemployed and students from Kiev are there - the most reasonable and politically thinking guys I guess :(
What scares me the most - people there will not listen to sensible arguments, they shout down any single one daring to speak. and their main arguments are EMOTIONS, not facts - which is a bit not good for those who pretend to make wise and fair decisions, no? POLITICAL decisions made with EMOTIONS should not be hailed "the only" and "the most", or they risk to look a bit too giddy to be reasonable.
It's sad but true, and you can hardly dispute these facts. I'm saying this not because I'll be voting for Yanukovich (and I will) and - especially - not because this guy is more fair than the other. He just has simpler goals and is more straightforward, so this time I'll choose him. I fear political extremism and dirty technologies applied at Maidan. It makes me - not angry, no - very sad. We have always been known as a very peaceful country, and now it is divided into - more or less - equal halves. Bad news, guys...
I'm not against you, believe me. One night, in my house two guys slept on the floor: one "orange" and the other "blue and white" - I love you all. What I hate is dirt and hypocrisy from both sides...
Good luck.
Alex
alexfigh@yandex.ru
December 9, 2004 | Unregistered CommenterAlex
Hi Alex. Well, thanks for the posting. I appreciate it especially because I get few Yanukovych supporters on the site, and most of the folks taking his part don't seem to be paying attention, whereas you do.

But I'm afraid I don't get it. There are a lot of people in Maidan. They are very emotional. But the ones I've met are emotional because they are excited and happy to get involved in their country's future.

I agree that their goals seem very simple - for the most part they are to get rid of "bandits" in power and nullify the fraudulent electon results. do you think they are not nuanced enough? Do you disagree with the assertion that the election was fraudulent and most of the fraud was on the part of the administration? If so, I'd love to hear why.

I also don't know why you blame the Yushchenko protesters for dividing the country. Again, do you believe the election result was fraudulent? If yes, do you think that election fraud is worth protesting about?

The separatist local governments represent a small number of officials in overwhelmingly pro-Yanukovych areas. Yanukovych has gone out to meet with them and encouraged them as they have made separatist statements. Why do you then consider it the opposition's fault that they are talking about secession?

Finally, what dirt and hypocrisy are you talking about in specific?

Again, thanks for your opinion, I don't get a lot of Yanukovych people on the site and your input helps me make the site better.
December 9, 2004 | Registered CommenterDan McMinn
Hi Dan.
As you could see from my other comments - if you read them - I won't stand for Yanukovych's frauds, I'm trying my best to be impartial. But - when you say the elections were bad (which I do not deny) - you will not deny that the forces in the country (not on Maidan) are equal, no? And fighting for the right of fair election is not worth the fuss they make around it.
As for the dirt and hypocrisy - BOTH parties pretend to be saint, and Yushchenko (who spent abt 600 million for election - as the western experts estimate - the lad must have a super good salary, yeah), and Timoshenko who stole millions from gas deals with the Russia, (both leaders are from Lazarenko team who is now in USA under arrest, accused of stealing 200 million) - look at them, they're saint! and those who blame them are just making the bad PR!
They're all bandits, on both sides, and that's what I'm calling the dirty games. If you don't - I'd like to hear why...
You just know little about the country and you, regretfully, can hear only those who shout louder.
And the last thing - in fact, I'm no Yanukovich supporter, I'm Yushchenko's opponent. As one wise guy said - when a man is talking about high ideals, check up your pockets, something might be missing... :( I'm disgusted with these saint people.
December 10, 2004 | Unregistered CommenterAlex
Hello There.
As this site is in English, I hope many people from all the world will read it. More than half of Ukr population were against this revolution. Now, we usually call the participants of that revolution as "Maidauns" - the derivative from Down illness. They eated Oranges with LSD and many other poisons. This was disgusting revolution. Wholy agree with Peter Pan.
March 27, 2007 | Unregistered Commentera

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