I don't know if you can quite call it wearing religion on your sleeve, but here are several pictures from paparazzi of both Victors celebrating Easter in church:

http://www.rep-ua.com/show/gallery.php?foto_id=859&what=g

These guys are absolutely terrified of elections.

Yushchenko made the right decision, because now the conversation is all about how the zRada is supposed to represent the people, and not just business interests in Donbas.

http://www.ukranews.com/eng/article/36318.html

Now it's up to the people.

it seems Ukraine-Today, the blog that spins the opinion of the PACE coreporter is spamming its spin in many of the major Ukraine english blogs...

see 2nd comment at Taras K's recent post.
http://blog.taraskuzio.net/2007/04/07/has-yushchenko-made-the-right-decision/
I saw the same post at Neeka's post...

They're using the internet/blogs to spin the situation in Ukraine. There also is a "Taras" that says, "The polling data suggests that 4 out of 5 forces in the current parliament will enter it, with the Socialists failing to do so. The Socialists could though be replaced by the Progressive Socialists. The results of the most recent opinion polls conducted by two respectable Kyiv-based pollsters show that the ruling coalition has nothing to fear if the Constitutional Court upholds Yushchenko on parliament dissolution and early elections. The Pary of Regions would obtain 35.3%, according to Sofia, and 33.5%, according to the Razumkov Center. BYuT would be second (25.1% according to Sofia and 24.9% according to Razumkov), followed by Our Ukraine (Sofia’s 5.4% and Razumkov’s 9.6%), and the Communists (Sofia’s 4.7% and Razumkov’s 5%). The Socialists would fail to enter(Sofia 2.8%, and Razumkov 2.1%) and the Vitrenko Bloc would also fail (1.6% Sofia, and 2.5% from Razumkov).
This would give a final result of:
40%/38.5% Regions + Communists (Sofia/Razumkov)
30.5%/34.5% BYuT + Our Ukraine

Translated into seats this would give Regions + Communists a majority."

The thing is that there are no links to corroborate this and I don't trust this "Taras" to be the real deal and so is this true the polls? If so then I think Yusch needs to do more than just call for new elections if he thinks things can be changed...

dlw

The news about the CC judges is very bad and everyone is pressuring someone/everyone else.

And what is in the balance is the very foundation of the political system - embrace democracy or authoritarianism. Constitutional crisis.

Unfortunately neither Kravchuk nor Kuchma had ANY real interest in real nation building and investing in the Constitution, judicial system, etc. There are loopholes and gaps that one can drive whole buses and trains through and that is what is happening. (It is corporate raiding expanded to the political sphere.)

I forgot who but someone voiced that the moral code within the PoR is that if there is not a law specifically which states that something is illegal then it is okay. Imagine trying to codify every single action (EU is trying to do that and the bureaucracy is nightmarish.)

dlw - if someone is spamming their spin into eng. lang. sites THEN
WHY are you cutting and pasting it HERE?
Why are u helping the spin-spam master along???

Come on, "what's in your wallet?"

More warmongering?

dlw

I don't trust those polls either. The PoRossiya and the rest of that bunch are using classic massive soviet propaganda, everywhere they can, to spin, disinform and confuse.

It hasn't been working.

And I still think they are terrified of elections - all you have to do is to look at the numbers that came out to see Lutsenko, voluntarily without pay.

To put it differently, all you have to do is look at the adverse reaction that Yushchenko got, after he tried to make the Universal Agreement work with Yanukovych.

It does not say what the people knew about Yushchenko - it says more about what the people already knew about Yanukovych and that whole bunch.

At this point, the good thing is that there is crystal clear proof, after 2 years, of what the Party of Regions, Moroz, and that whole Coalition of Judases is all about.

The people don't have to march, and they certainly don't have to wave flags, blue or pink or any other color, like a bunch of idiots, for the sake of a few hryvnias.

And by the way, what does it tell you when, even with 150 hryvnias a day, so few people came out to wave those blue and pink flags?

And, as pointed out by Neeka, those people are desperate. And it was indeed sad, but at least they got some hryvnias out of it.

All they have to do is come out and vote.

Which is what that incumbents are terrified of.

"They're using the internet/blogs to spin the situation in Ukraine. There also is a "Taras" that says, "

The person who responded was Taras Kuzio himself. (unless I am in grave error) but it does have the hallmarks of his style.

Pls. note that the cut/paste comment was in regards to the spin-spam master and NOT Kuzio. Expert opinion is always desirable.

And in regards to stats check out the quotes collected regarding stats.

I am signing off before I go off on a long rant re: stats and the manipulation of in Ukraine.

I try not to repost spin nor monger for war, I was interested in getting corroboration of what "Taras" wrote and letting people know that the NU seems to be using the internet strategy I had earlier suggested.

Taras' remarks seemed quite contrary to the earlier confidence he expressed in Yulia becoming pm. So it seems that the tea leaves are a bit murky.

IIU, are you a professional statistician or social scientist?

dlw

well, they're busing them in, estimatad at 9,000.

Let's see, 9,000 times 150 = 1,350,000 hryvnias per day.


Just a small investment for an oligarch, or several, to save billions.

Do they pay extra if you wave a blue or pink flag?

And how can the commies afford all this stuff? Do the commies have any oligarchs?

http://www.unian.net/eng/news/news-191315.html

Here is even more evidence that Yushchenko made the right decision.

Moroz is turning to ---- RUSSIA ---- in order to save his, and the Coalition's, miserable butts.

They are going to sell out to ----- RUSSIA ----- so they can keep their darn money and power.


They won't keep it for long - Putin will take it away from them.

WHAT A BUNCH OF JUDASES!!!

WHAT A BUNCH OF IDIOTS!!!!

EVEN JUDAS ISCARIOT HAD THE GOOD SENSE TO GO AND HANG HIMSELF!!!!

DON'T THESE PEOPLE STUDY HISTORY?


DON'T THEY KNOW FROM HISTORY THAT NOONE CAN TRUST THE RUSSIAN SNAKE?


THEY ARE TURNING TO PUTIN'S DICTATORSHIP FOR "HELP"?


THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT ONLY GREEDY, THEY ARE STUPID!!!!


[www.unian.net]

Here's the link:


http://www.unian.net/eng/news/news-191400.html

Elmer, U rd my mind! I saw all those red flags and wondered - who is funding this venture of theirs? It certainly did not come from pensioners paying party dues but did u see on Tabloid the picture of the Communist party member with her Gucci frames?

And they are right this is most certainly their fight. Socialist/Communist ideology + mafioso business PoR complete one another as one provides the vehicle while others the drivers and money. And lets not forget these people are loaded - millions really do mean nothing. (btw remember the tents, food, transportation costs, stage with technicians, printing fees, etc.) (I just hope these people get paid - there were stories after OR of how PoR skipped out on paying contractors for rentals and hires.)

And look at it this way - at least the people are making some hv and seeing the big city.

I am all for money made in Ukraine staying in Ukraine rather than capital flight out of the country!
Be a good Ukrainian - pay a demonstrator!

(it is coming from the government anyway - why do u think they took over state banks? big piggy banks.)

(If the demonstrators were smart, they would organize and call for higher wages. Bring in the unions!)

Thank God, Russia is standing up for Democracy!!!

dlw

Be a good Ukrainian - pay a demonstrator!


Well, Tymoshenko said they weren't getting paid enough.

And if you read Neeka's Backlog, she's right, considering the high prices in Kyiv.

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Of course they are not being paid enough! That is why they need to organize with solidarity (unionize) and strike for higher wages and better living conditions.

Perhaps after this mini-Revolution of their own, they can finally feel what "people power" means and realize that their politicians owe them and not vice versa.

Why do u think so many of the PoR demonstrators are being viewed with sympathetic eyes (мені жалко, мучат їх)? Not ire Not outrage
because Kyivites see themselves from years ago. They are dressed in track suits that were the rage a decade ago, with the same look of misery and hopelessness. People say that they are brainwashed or call them clones. It is the zabuta mentality which they themselves experienced. Prosperity has not come to the East for all people.

And to have put them in the middle of the most expensive real estate in the country with some of the most expensive stores is just too surreal.

Hand caught in the cookie jar - PM Yanukovych knew about the chief justice's attempt to resign. (even before Dombrovych did.)

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Geez - Coalition people might really be stiffing people. Bring them in, pay them one day and then they have to find their own way home.

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And for years, people in the East have been told that the reason why they have no money and life is hard is because all the money goes to Kyiv for the Orange-ists. (no mention of how much goes into the pockets of locals - politicians, judges, administrators, businessmen.) So for people in the East, Kyiv is the tormentor not PoR/CPU/SPU.

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Bummer - Yulia/BYuT announced she is going on separate electoral list rather than with NSNU. And it is being criticized as putting personal interests ahead of national interests.

Maybe part of the answer needs to be for the Orange supporters to go out of their way to share free food with the Blue visitors in a gesture of hospitality and offered friendship?

dlw

It would also be cool if you got a Google Maidan going, not unlike what is being done now for Darfur.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/04/10/google.genocide/index.html

dlw

Bummer indeed - I thought that Yulka had previously made it very clear that all of the democratic forces would stick together, and I got the impression that there would be one party list.

Was I mistaken?

So she's going to pull them apart - again - in the hopes of breaking through herself.

They need to stick together, just like Lutsenko said.

Otherwise, the Kuchmists will come back again.