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Pressing Concerns

Well, Crap 

It seems I forgot to spit over my shoulder three times against bad luck after I wrote this:

There's a major bright spot in this lack of non-gassified news, though. What we aren't hearing about are accusations of media crackdowns and use of administrative resources that came up so often in the last election... All the folks who took part in the ORev protests can take heart: whatever problems there have been in Ukraine since January 2006, their efforts won them not only one fair election, but if things continue on like this, a second one as well.

And now I have noticed irksome examples of both. Foreign Notes brought my attention to a newspaper office burning in L'viv and a journalist beating in Donetsk (there was another firebombing claim last fall from a Ukrainian tabloid, not terribly well sorted out). Also Regions of Ukriane broke into a school to get one of their deputies un-fired.

And for the administrative resource, I have political commentary from one of my favorite sources, my mother-in-law: 

…Today the president of our academy came to visit us at the institute and campaign for BYT (Block of Yulia Tymoshenko). Our academy president wants to keep his seat for more than one term, that's why he decided to go into politics and chose support to support this bloc. He seems pretty sure that Tymoshenko will be the new Prime Minister.

So they go around all the institutions belonging to our system and "persuade" people to become BYT party members. Well, people here got used to this kind of requests from higher echelons, that's why they spend all their efforts to ensure the president's support by making their subordinates enter BYT. (e.g. one girl is working on her thesis and she was afraid that if she didn't become a BYT it would reflect badly on her chances. "It's a lucky thing the ballot is still secret" she told mom.)

The election campaign is getting heated up. Tymoshenko has chosen a tactic – sidle up to the electorate: a minimum of the external advertising, very few billboards (it's true), no TV advertising, not a word of advertising on Radio Era either. Instead, you get roundtables to help ordinary people to solve some problems, like "have your been granted the right pension?", etc. They also help orphanages, schools, kindergartens and individual pensioners. So they're at least somewhat useful.

The Regions guys, on the other hand, have been trying to give everybody the shakes: they blather on in sepulchral voices that "Alles Kaput": the economy, social status and international status. And when the proffessor comes, everything will be go back to the good old days...

Man I hope they put together a functioning judiciary sometime soon, so some of these problems can actually get dealt with. A little more refugee friendliness would be nice, too.

Other Bits 

In good news: Ukraine's finally gotten market economy status from the US. 

In entertainment news: Vera Serduchka (as always). Serduchka is officially backing the Green Party. I'm sure the similarity of their political views is obvious.

OK I Admit It

Not a terribly insightful entry today. As penance, here are a few Donetsk pictures

 

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Ok Dan since you mentioned simplicity, let's start with the basics, the Black Sea Fleet and its facilities are Russian property - and it would be silly to charge Russians rent for their property. You suggest charging for the land - fine. Let take a look at the numbers. The base occupies maybe somewhere around 10 square kilomoters at most (and thats my overestimate). That 10 million meters. Current yearly rent is 93 million. This equates to 9.3 dollars per meter a year or .75 cents a month of rent.
Since I work in real estate, I would say for 'polluted beachfront' filled with military warehouses in Ukraine is worth roughly about 10-20 dollars at most per square meter - and thats a buying price, not rental price. And again I generously overestimate. There is already a civilan port so the base can only be partitioned and used as storage by small firms or rented to US Navy (the only real Navy there is). The Americans may forkover 93 million a year but that land 'privatized' may be worth just about 93 million.
So the 'free market' price for rent is less that what Russia currently pays. And Orange free market liberals want to raise it 20 times while undermining the border agreement! If they are not radicals, then what are they, Dan?
February 23, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterLalulu
The real market rental price for that land is as follows: 20 USD per meter times 10 million meters times .05 (since 5 percent of total worth is an average yearly rental price). Do the math and you get a paultry 10 million dollars a year. Even that meagre sum - I don't know of any entity other than a foreign government that would be willing to pay that amount of money for a naval base! And no one would build residential there and a commercial port is right next door.
February 23, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterLalulu
Or maybe this whole Fleet rental idea falls under Dan's gas theory - the base rental has been so overblown up to this point that Ukrainian free market liberals have become painfully ineficient at calculating the real worth of their property.
Like I said before, with people like these in charge and with most of its population being Russian, Crimea is better off breaking off and incorporating itself back into Russia.
February 23, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterLalulu
I queried a Ukrainian-American acquaintance (ancestral roots in Odessa) on the topic:

http://forums.nytimes.com/top/opinion/readersopinions/forums/international/easterneuropeandrussia/index.html?offset=19957&fid=.f577f80/19957

untermensch - 3:47 PM ET February 23, 2006 (#18638 of 18639)
Balkanize: to break up (as a region or group) into smaller and often hostile units.

Mike:

Let me give you an example of another lease of a naval facility that you might want to reference when you argue about Sevastapol:

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/guantanamo-bay.htm

U.S. Naval Base Guantanamo Bay is the oldest U.S. base overseas and the only one in a Communist country. Located on the southeast corner of Cuba, in the Oriente Province, the base is about 400 air miles from Miami, Florida. The terrain and climate of Guantanamo Bay make it a haven for iguanas and banana rats.

In December 1903, the United States leased the 45 square miles of land and water for use as a coaling station. A treaty reaffirmed the lease in 1934 granting Cuba and her trading partners free access through the bay, payment of $2,000 in gold per year, equating to $4,085 today, and a requirement that both the U.S. and Cuba must mutually consent to terminate the lease

I'm sure that you are aware that Russia is in the process of building a new naval base on the black Sea that is on Russian territory... it could be that issue is soon moot.
February 23, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterMichael Averko
lalulu,

10 square kilometers = 10 million meters?

Hurryup - please sell me 10 square kilometers at the 10 million meter price.

I want a bargain like the Russians, too.
February 23, 2006 | Unregistered Commenterblackminorcapullets
Black

Call Castro; I know some great little Cuban torture chambers up for sale.
February 24, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterLalulu
Lalalu, history check:

1. How about Russia having its borders rolled back to 1147, the year Moscow was founded by Yury Dolgoruki, Prince of Kyiv?

2. How about the Russian defense ministry kicking in a few gigabucks' worth of compensation for Kyiv's successful naval campaigns in 860 and 911?

3. How about the Kremlin confessing trademark infringement of the "Rus" brand, along with the centuries-long practice of cooking history textbooks?

4. How about the Russian finance and transportation ministries setting up a fund to compensate Crimean Tartar repats for their stolen property, perished relatives, and travel expenses?

5. How about Russia the self-appointed successor to the USSR paying damages for things like the Holodomor? In fact, G8 pal Germany is doing just that with regard to the Jews.

6. How about the EU sponsoring a plebiscite in Kaliningrad (former Konigsberg) on whether they want to stay in Russia or join the EU?

Make no mistake: Every stick has two ends. Why get stuck in yet another pot of "bubble Rush-ia" soup?
February 25, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterTaras
Lalulu,

I sincerely apologize for misspelling your nick. No offense intended.
February 25, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterTaras
Taras you're right, hence, it's stupid for Ukrainian side to try to raise BSF rent - the historical can of worm were closed by a border agreement.
The damages to Ukraine have been repaid I think in billions of early gas subsidies. Oh wait but just like with Jews, it's never enough is it? And since Germany is paying out, why not ask Germany to pay back for Barbarossa?
February 25, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterLalulu
Taras has a selective historical interpretation that's not shared by many. The below links address the issues he touches on:

http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@518.VLTTiafgO3e.16@.77480649/1510

http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@295.FH7DiVpQ3Ag.15@.77480649/1532

http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@621.QHNuiXZb3UZ.13@.77480649/1581

http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@808.NH61iZjI3Eg.7@.77480649/1659

At The New York Times Russia/East Europe forum there's a Ukrainian-American participant whose grandfather was a prime minster in Skoropodsky's Russian Civil War era Ukrainian government. The mentioned Ukrainian-American has stated that Ukraine's borders expanded when it was affiliated with Russia unlike when Poland was involved.
February 25, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterMichael Averko
Mike - Taras dude is a weirdo.

Hey Taras
I'll swap my Kalinigrad for your Crimea. I'll give you some compensations for Holodomor if you can extract something from Georgia for Stalin. Also we can divy up Germany for WW2 - I'll take the West, you take the East; frivolous lawsuit forces of the world unite!
February 26, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterLalulu
Lalulu

Is he the real McCoy Taras as in the "cool" one?
February 26, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterMichael Averko
Well its not Taras Bulba thats for sure. According to Gogol, Bulba was a rabid anti-Semite; this Taras on the other hand seems to love Jewish ways.
February 26, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterLalulu
Trans-Dniester versus Moldova, an example of why it's cooler to be pro-Russian:

http://www.bhhrg.org/CountryReport.asp?CountryID=16&ReportID=260

Some Olympic notes with Ukraine referenced:

http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@399.Ni2bi8w65DI.1@.77480649/1761

February 27, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterMichael Averko
Trandsdnesr KICKED Moldova's ASS back in the 90s just like Georgians got theirs in Abhazia and South Ossetiya. Moldovans are stupid, stupid people for messing with hereditary Cossacks.
February 27, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterLalulu
I'd hope for more frequent posts from you Dan in the weeks before the election.

I find myself reading Foreign Notes regularly for their daily installments.

dlw
February 28, 2006 | Unregistered Commenterdlw
Lalu:

The Trans-Dniester situation is a bit complex.

Moldova proper has a democratically elected ethnic Russian Commie as president.

Trans-Dniester's government includes a good number of ethnic Romanians.

Many of Trans-Dniester's ethnic Romanian population believe that it's more prudent to be friendlier with Russia.
February 28, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterMichael Averko
DLW: Sorry for not posting more, but I'm trying to get a writing career going out here and taking multiple classes. And out here is CA, too, so I'm no longer in the thick of things to have things of value to offer y'all more regularly.

I certainly agree that Foreign Notes is picking up the pace in the lead up to the elections here. They've been posting a lot of really good stuff, I'll probably mention it in the next post.

Michael: I've mentioned it before, but it's odd to hear you talk about "selective historical interpretation" and try to use as justification four comment threads unlinked to articles in a chat area at a single British paper, all of which you are a major contributor to.

Comment streams make poor sources of material because the Internet self-selects for loudmouths (bloggers like me) and crackpots. You read lots of news sources. If you're going to try to provide supporting evidence, link to them.


Lalulu: The suggestion we were immediately referring to, which included the whole "market rates" argument, was from Kinakh, not a terribly great friend of NSNU. That's part of the reason why I thought it interesting.

Aside from him, the majority of sniping over the base has subsided. The last time it was a major issue was when Russia broke contract to cut off the power in the dead of winter just before a Ukrainian election. That some nationalistic deputies brought up the fleet rents in a "yeah, well see how you like it!" campaign is not surprising. Nor is the fact that the noise subsided with scarcely any ultimate effect, same as Tuzla and many other things.

In the original stream of this conversation:
http://orangeukraine.squarespace.com/journal/2006/2/15/still-in-a-holding-pattern.html
I tried to make clear that radicalism is revealed in what one does, not what one says one will do. Aside from greatly increased media freedom and lower levels of use of administrative resources in the lead up to this election, there haven't been many big changes in Ukraine, and even fewer radical ones. Especially since September.

So are you judging politicians based on what they say rather than what they do, or what?

"I'll give you some compensations for Holodomor if you can extract something from Georgia for Stalin." What is with this absurd Russophile argument? It's worse that huge numbers of Russians think his reign of terror was good for the country, but certainly repugnant that others want to extradite him posthumously.

http://orangeukraine.squarespace.com/journal/2005/4/21/stalins-victory.html

As I've said before, it's absurdly racially deterministic to blame the ethnic group a man belongs to for his crimes and exculpate the nation that gave him the soldiers, secret police, and other structures of terror used to carry out his mass murder.
March 1, 2006 | Registered CommenterDan McMinn
Dan and Lesya, Hey I wondered where you two had got to! Wish we'd known you were in CA when we were there in July and then again in August. You can contact us at our old email address - it hasn't changed. We'd sure like to hear from you!
Greetings from wet, cold and grey Kherson!
Cindie
March 1, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterCindie
Dan:

I get your drift.

However, my commentary at those links have supporting links that go under the "credible" category.

Blogging has been popularized because many of the undemocratyically selected experts aren't necessarily the most adept.

I know this to be true (in some instances) on "my side" and I suspect the same to be so from other perspectives.

I'd love to link some of the Action Ukraine Report material. However, at this time, that venue isn't structured to do so like Johnson's Russia List.
March 1, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterMichael Averko

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