Razom Nas Bahato
The Chestnut Revolution now has its own theme music. This song is called "Razom Nas Bahato". I can't say it adds much to advancement of rap, but it has heart.
get it from me here. A big thanks goes out to http://www.pisni.org.ua/, for putting the song up on the internet where Lesya and I could find it, along with the Ukrainian lyrics below.
Chorus: Разом нас багато Together we are many
Нас не подолати! We cannot be
defeated.
Фальсифікаціям.
Ні!
Falsifications. No!
Махінаціям.
Ні!
Machinations. No!
Понятіям.
Ні!
'Little Understandings'. No!
Ні
брехні!
No to lies!
Ющенко,
Ющенко! Yushchenko,
Yushchenko!
Це наш
президент.
is our President.
Так! Так!
Так!
Yes! Yes! Yes!
(Chorus)
Ми не
бидло. We
aren't beasts of burden.
Ми не
козли.
We aren't goats.
Ми
України We
are of Ukraine
Доньки і
сини
sons and daughters
Зараз чи
ніколи
It's now or never
Годі
чекати enough
of waiting
Разом нас
багато
together we are many
Разом нас не
подолати
together we cannot be
defeated.
(Chorus)
[Translation note: "the bit we translated as 'little understandings', which we formerly translated as 'Prison Rules', technically means "understandings". It is used in Ukraine to mean the kind of rules that are not written down on paper, the kind of rules Lesya assures me are still associated with prison culture here. The reference that "we are not goats" come from an offhand comment Yanukovych made, in which he dismissed the protesters in Kyiv as 'goats'. Profanity is not as widely used as it is in the US, so this insult is stronger that it seems to a Western reader. Perhaps the closest comparable word in English would be "bastard".]
Dan McMinn
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pozdrowionka dla GRACJI :*
Gracia & Przygoda,
no i oczywiście "Razom nas bahato"
RULEZ RULEZ RULEZ !!!!!
Cóż więcej dodać ^__^ I LOVE YOU ALL !!!!!
thank you!
but You can't stop orange revolution
i hope we all have orange symbols, music in our hearts and now bosom friends - we have to help anoyher countries to get freedom,
we have to start the fight for Byelorussian.
let's go!
w koncu ktos sie zbuntowal no nareszcie
a politycy nie pieprzcie ze to dla dobra narodu
bo przez was male dzieci umieraja z glodu
politycznego smrodu bede sie wypierać
nas ne podołaty bede sie wydzierac
ukraine bede wspierac
bo czuję taka potrzebe
mam nadzieje ze w koncu bedzie wam jak w niebie
mnie to kurwa jebie czy zly polityk zyje
ale wiem jedno ze na bank w piekle zginie
politycznwe swinie to dla was jest ostroga
no bo ja w was widze nie przyjaciela a wroga
jebcie sie politycy całego swiata !!!
It's a good choice to make ,this historical moment in this contry in music, i like this.
Peace from Canada!!
Yes , a Eurovison Fan in Canada
As for political statements and the ESC - even that's not new. Over the years there have been many songs that contained political statements. The only thing that's new is that it had never been directed towards a single person.
...
And then again, could we really imagine anyone wrting a (supporting) song for the likes of Chirac, Schroeder or Berlusconi???
PS.
I don't want to offend anyone here, but I think that people who were lucky enough to be brought up outside the former Communist realm should be more considerate and careful in what they are saying.
http://www.esctoday.com/news/react.php?id=3911
This is what europeans think about the song for Eurovision.
ESC fan - Any second thoughts the ESC may be having about Ukraine are unlikely to be due to political messages in songs. They're a lot more likely to have to do with the frantic racing around at the last minute, changing of the commission overseeing the event, and other such administrative hassles. [update: theoretically, a song may be disqualified for being "political propaganda" but I have seen no major news source (I mean news, not esctoday rumors) that indicates this might happen to Ukraine]
Even more important is this: sucking nationalism out of music, even if you were able to do such a thing, would greatly harm the contest rather than help. Much good music has political overtones, it sure beats yet another saccharine love song. But don't take my word for it, talk to Kud13 about national spirit in Ruslana's music.
Yuri - Well considering some of your other postings here, I doubt your hyperbole about giving up your passport has much to do with the Eurovision contest. But I want to know: Where is the shame you're talking about?
1) Countries can nominate whomever they want to represent them, and eventually that comes down to a popularity contest that need have no connection to artistic merit. Ani Lorak? Mandri is at least 15 times better, and got 1/15th the number of votes she did. If you need evidence that popularity beats merit, there it is.
2) Greenjolly got picked by about 2250 votes to 1950 in a nationwide SMS phone poll in the national finals. They got picked because people had heard of them. Does that necessarily reflect musical accomplishment? No, I just said it doesn't. But so what, it was still a legitimate vote, made during the course of Ukraine's national competition - which, by the way, the government can judge however the heck it wants to.
3) If the ESC judges don't like them, they won't vote for them. Great! The Greenjolly song may be heartfelt, but as I said when I first posted the song here on the site: it has never been meant to be a great innovation in hip-hop.
4) That Ukraine will lose is not surprising: they were never going to win anyway. The ESC people would never give the award to the same country twice. So Greenjolly plays a song that most Ukrainians and many people worldwide have heard of. (I've had 77 comments on this posting of their song!) People will say, "That's very nice!" and move on to look at the real contenders for this year.
So where's your shame?
Best of all you have not provided me with a bit of "fraud" or of "cheating". Your conversation slipped from being about political propaganda to saying there was fraud involved - what in the world are you talking about?
I'm not even sure how serious the propaganda claims are. This site: http://eurovision2005.info/news.php?lang=en&id=216
was the only site, outside of esctoday.com which had any mention of a controversy at all. Of course, it also was getting all its information from esctoday. The article seems suspicious to me, since they try to bring BBC in on their side for this article: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4304043.stm
because the BBC mentioned, erroneously, that Razom Nas Bahato is based on an earlier revolutionary song.
I read an interview with the guys in the Kyiv Post, they had remixed political slogans from the protest movement. It doesn't take inspiration from famous Spanish songs to do that. But even so, the BBC article makes no mention of any controversy.
Nor does any other major source I've seen so far.